Most of it, yeah. The stuff that flat contradicts canon (as opposed to not being mentioned) would be: (a) Azog surviving the battle of Moria; (b) Thorin rather than Dain fighting Azog at the battle of Moria; (c) that Thorin's quest is about "reclaiming my homeland" rather than "regaining my gold the dragon stole" (though they gloss over the question of what 13 Dwarfs and a Hobbit could expect to accomplish in that vein); (d) the flat statement that the Witch-King was dead and buried, when they knew damned well that he could not be killed and was a Ringwraith.
Lots of minor contradictions, of course, mostly having to do with characterization: Thorin had no particular problem with Elrond, for instance; Bilbo got hustled into joining the company; Bilbo had reason to suspect the Ring was Gollum's until he'd already won the riddle game; and of course the big one of Bilbo attacking the Orcs while fully visible, which was just ludicrous.
If I were king of the world, that's the one thing I would change in the movie, because it plays merry hell with the whole reason for a Hobbit. They're not fighters, they're sneaky, and Bilbo never once goes into open combat in the book unless he's wearing the Ring. He's brave, but he's little and weak and he knows it, so he uses his skills sensibly.
PJ is really playing up the Hobbit/LotR::Thorin/Aragorn parallels
Hmm, except Thorin : Hobbit as Boromir : LotR, wouldn't you think? Unless PJ is really going to make a radical change to his characterization, Thorin's obsession with the Arkenstone and the treasure is the driving force of much of the last third of the book.
...Ooooh, I just had an idea. I was wondering why Gandalf hadn't mentioned Thrain. I wonder if what PJ is going to do is have Gandalf go to Dol Guldur, find Thrain, get the Dwarf Ring from him, return it to Thorin, and that will be what drives him into disaster. (Except it seems unlikely that Gandalf would be so foolish as to return a Dwarf Ring...)
But it seems like a really good way to tie the two trilogies together, except for the unfortunate circumstance that PJ never mentioned the Dwarf Rings in the first trilogy. Ooops.
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Most of it, yeah. The stuff that flat contradicts canon (as opposed to not being mentioned) would be: (a) Azog surviving the battle of Moria; (b) Thorin rather than Dain fighting Azog at the battle of Moria; (c) that Thorin's quest is about "reclaiming my homeland" rather than "regaining my gold the dragon stole" (though they gloss over the question of what 13 Dwarfs and a Hobbit could expect to accomplish in that vein); (d) the flat statement that the Witch-King was dead and buried, when they knew damned well that he could not be killed and was a Ringwraith.
Lots of minor contradictions, of course, mostly having to do with characterization: Thorin had no particular problem with Elrond, for instance; Bilbo got hustled into joining the company; Bilbo had reason to suspect the Ring was Gollum's until he'd already won the riddle game; and of course the big one of Bilbo attacking the Orcs while fully visible, which was just ludicrous.
If I were king of the world, that's the one thing I would change in the movie, because it plays merry hell with the whole reason for a Hobbit. They're not fighters, they're sneaky, and Bilbo never once goes into open combat in the book unless he's wearing the Ring. He's brave, but he's little and weak and he knows it, so he uses his skills sensibly.
PJ is really playing up the Hobbit/LotR::Thorin/Aragorn parallels
Hmm, except Thorin : Hobbit as Boromir : LotR, wouldn't you think? Unless PJ is really going to make a radical change to his characterization, Thorin's obsession with the Arkenstone and the treasure is the driving force of much of the last third of the book.
...Ooooh, I just had an idea. I was wondering why Gandalf hadn't mentioned Thrain. I wonder if what PJ is going to do is have Gandalf go to Dol Guldur, find Thrain, get the Dwarf Ring from him, return it to Thorin, and that will be what drives him into disaster. (Except it seems unlikely that Gandalf would be so foolish as to return a Dwarf Ring...)
But it seems like a really good way to tie the two trilogies together, except for the unfortunate circumstance that PJ never mentioned the Dwarf Rings in the first trilogy. Ooops.