starlady | Recs: XMFC, The Killjoys/bandom

X-Men First Class
X-Muppets!

X-Men: First Class soundtrack with extra songs (including the end credits track!)

vids!
watch me fall apart on vimeo ANNNGGST
ready for abduction
Friday night LOL

I find that I don't really care for most of the XMFC vids I've seen (not that I've seen a lot, I've mostly been following

kuwdora's guidance on fic and vids), because I am so leery of reading random fic in this fandom, so leery. And true enough many of the vids I've seen have really focused monomaniacally on Erik's past and…that's not what I'm interested in exploring. The movie isn't a story about salvation (and the idea of Charles being able to save anyone is laughable, hello, Charles Xavier has massive issues of his own, they just don't make for good summer celluloid), it's a story about survival, and I find Erik's choice at the end, even though I don't actually think it's terribly consistent with the writing up until that point, to be the more interesting part of the story. Giving up true love for what you believe? Yeah, that's heroic, and interesting to me partly because I doubt I could do it. So, in conclusion, the XMFC vid for me is still

talitha78's Til The World Ends, it is the essence of the story that I am interested in. But Set Fire to the Rain manages to address Erik's past without getting bogged down in it, and I liked it a lot too.

On another topic entirely
Draculoids Will Never Hurt You by

sassbandit and

were_duck
My Chemical Romance (Killjoys 'verse)
Gerard hates his job in the art department at BLI. The only good part of his day is hanging with the smokers downstairs, especially Frank, who shares Gerard’s frustration and rebellion against the corporate norms. But when Frank is fired, Gerard quits his job too, and with Mikey’s and Ray’s help, sets off to find Frank, irritate Korse, and turn art into revolution.

I've been hearing about this fic for months, and now it's finally here! I've never read bandom fic before in my life, and I don't know that I will again, but this fic is so good, it's the postapocalyptic anti-corporate art-based music-making revolution fic that you never knew you needed in your life, but you do, YOU DO. ♥ The master post contains art and three fanmixes, too. ♥

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Oh, I hope that's what the movie is about because the alternative is that he's already settled on an ethics of being a telepath, and if that's the case then he's arrested himself at an extremely immature place. I don't think that Charles at the end of the film has yet reached a truly adult ethics of telepathy.

I think this thought of mine has mostly manifested in my hope that the next movie will try to do the Proteus/Mutant X storyline, which is one of my favorite X-Men storylines and which is all about Charles's chickens coming home to roost, especially in the Ultimate version.

I have no idea what said storyline is about (my comics knowledge is nearly nil), but I would pay good money to see Charles' chickens come home to roost. I would even shell out for movie theater popcorn to go with it.

I don't think that Charles at the end of the film has yet reached a truly adult ethics of telepathy.

Definitely not. One can only hope that the fact that all the people he cared about left him will provide a massive cluebat for him.

Proteus is great. Chris Claremont at the height of his powers: We learn that Moira got pregnant and had a son and in main continuity it's ambiguous about whether Charles is the father and in Ultimate continuity it's clear that Charles is the father, but either way he stashes her on Muir Island off the coast of Scotland and tries to forget she ever existed, because Charles is a huge asshole like that. But her son is a psychotic, incredibly dangerous mutant (the reason why, even in main continuity where ostensibly Moira married someone else after Charles ditches her, one suspects Charles was the father) and eventually the X-Men get involved in trying to stop Proteus from killing people... and Charles still doesn't explain anything to them, and they're all like "Professor X, wtf is your ex-wife/ex-fiance doing trying to deal with her son on her own while you sit off in your own corner being an asshole?" And he's like "Waaaah Secret Mainpain!" And Wolverine's like "Damn, even I'm not as much of a dick as Professor X."

It's just like... all of the problems with Charles as a character that you can ignore most of the time come out really glaringly and the reader gets to see just how much of the pain people around Charles feel is directly attributable to Charles being an incredibly insensitive human being.

But it eventually leads to Moira not being isolated on Muir Island and being awesome and the X-Men realizing that she can do so many things to help them that Professor X can't.

*dies laughing*

And Wolverine's like "Damn, even I'm not as much of a dick as Professor X."

Now I mean, I love Wolverine as much as the next girl, but that is a pretty low standard to be failing right there.

Right. I think you're starting to get why I'm totally nonplussed that Erik was the hero of the movie and Charles was just a dick who got in the way.

I think a lot of the cognitive dissonance people are having with the ending of XMFC is that they expect like a Darth Vader narrative- Erik turning into a being of pure evil- and the ending doesn't justify that. But putting on the Magneto costume and ditching Charles isn't tantamount to turning into Darth Vader, if you know what the two characters are like in comics continuity. There's a lot more ambiguity and even heroism to Magneto's struggle, and there's a lot that is extremely dangerous about Charles's path.

I just hope that in XMFC2 we see the way the twisty interconnections between Charles and Erik and Moira and Raven continue to unravel because all four of them are damaged and incredibly flawed people. I mean, frankly I just hope that Moira gets a role in the new movie in any form.

I just hope that in XMFC2 we see the way the twisty interconnections between Charles and Erik and Moira and Raven continue to unravel because all four of them are damaged and incredibly flawed people. I mean, frankly I just hope that Moira gets a role in the new movie in any form.

That would be awesome, really. I'm encouraged by this iteration of the movie people having explicitly discarded the earlier movies.

As for Moira, I could see ways they could include her, which would be excellent. It depends on how soon after this movie they want to set the next one, among other things including Hollywood being itself, I think. Presumably they're going to stick pretty close in time if they still want to use the current cast/Fassbender & McAvoy.

Unfortunately, she's probably not as easy to include as Moira MacTaggert, random CIA agent with a crush on Charles as she would be as Moira MacTaggert, international expert on genetics. But having Jane Foster upgraded from nurse to badass astrophysicist maybe makes up for that.

You know, not to say that being a nurse is anything wrong, but the list of awesome badass female nurses on TV and film goes out the door, while the list of awesome badass female astrophysicists is... Ellie Arroway and Sam Carter.

I just had to use this icon. (My mom was a nurse for a while.)

I agree about female astrophysicists, btw. There's a few more if you throw in movies, but not many.

Ooh, I would love a Proteus storyline (or for that matter any storyline that used Moira better than XMFC). I haven't read the Ultimate version but the mainstream one really was good. Speaking of "Charles being a dick", did you read Whedon's storyline about the Danger Room?

Assuming that XMFC is considered as part of the same canon as the previous X-Men movies, Charles's behavior that is revealed in X3 shows him to be a character with deeply problematic ethics. So I sort of choose to believe we are intended to read him that way in XMFC and in subsequent movies.

With the large caveat that I haven't read very many things about the film, I think XMFC is actually supposedly creating a separate movie canon of its own and jossing the first three.

But I'm pretty sure that the first three movies are coloring everyone's perceptions; I know they do mine.

It actually would be kind of nice if that was their intention, especially since I assume they only brought Azazel in to introduce something from comics continuity that is definitely not part of the continuity of the previous movies. Or they're just stupid. 50/50.

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