Mmm, just I feel like turning it into all of a WSFS are like that, discounts all of the Media Fandom and more who have been part of the WSFS all along. (Like 1974, Star Trek was accused of ruining the dignity of the Hugo's for basically the same bullshit as this.)
As you said, you were a member, you voted, and it's bullshit that people like JJ are trying to say that you don't count - and JJ is a known wanker who is wrong on many topics.
If you look at the naysayers now, they're mostly the same naysayers that were bitching in April - they got overridden by Dublin Convention and I think New Zealand convention is a bit what about this current brougha.
(the problem is there's a seperate incorporation and society for each worldcon, and they don't appear to have a PR department, so they don't have a way to control individual members - be it say yourself, or JJ, seperate website for each world con. )
I'm still very lol, at the obvious bitterness Kevin has when he admitted he was told that "our visions diverge" and isn't really in charge of shit anymore.
Anyways, I agree with the assessment that it's legal to make those things. I also agree with the assessment that it's less than nice.
I wish that they have a PR department so that they could have put thought into asking nicely what they wanted, instead, we have a whole bunch of communication screw ups and have burnt a lot of good will.
But instead I think we have a deliberate disorganisation/decentralisation to avoid putting power in the wrong peoples hands, and the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and now a bunch of assholes get to talk loudly.
... I just feel like it's giving the assholes too much credit to assume that the whole org feels the same way they do. They don't - more than a third of the audience (not 10%) stood up when Ao3 won.
And while it doesn't say good things that WSFS can't get the assholes to shut up, I don't think that the assholes should get to win like that.
(I say as I still wibble over the New Zealand membership I was going to buy to attend next year and am now having second thoughts over - was waiting for the paycheck that came in literally the day before the wank started.)
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Date: 2019-09-23 08:48 (UTC)As you said, you were a member, you voted, and it's bullshit that people like JJ are trying to say that you don't count - and JJ is a known wanker who is wrong on many topics.
If you look at the naysayers now, they're mostly the same naysayers that were bitching in April - they got overridden by Dublin Convention and I think New Zealand convention is a bit what about this current brougha.
(the problem is there's a seperate incorporation and society for each worldcon, and they don't appear to have a PR department, so they don't have a way to control individual members - be it say yourself, or JJ, seperate website for each world con. )
I'm still very lol, at the obvious bitterness Kevin has when he admitted he was told that "our visions diverge" and isn't really in charge of shit anymore.
Anyways, I agree with the assessment that it's legal to make those things. I also agree with the assessment that it's less than nice.
I wish that they have a PR department so that they could have put thought into asking nicely what they wanted, instead, we have a whole bunch of communication screw ups and have burnt a lot of good will.
But instead I think we have a deliberate disorganisation/decentralisation to avoid putting power in the wrong peoples hands, and the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and now a bunch of assholes get to talk loudly.
... I just feel like it's giving the assholes too much credit to assume that the whole org feels the same way they do. They don't - more than a third of the audience (not 10%) stood up when Ao3 won.
And while it doesn't say good things that WSFS can't get the assholes to shut up, I don't think that the assholes should get to win like that.
(I say as I still wibble over the New Zealand membership I was going to buy to attend next year and am now having second thoughts over - was waiting for the paycheck that came in literally the day before the wank started.)