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Poll #7183 Greatest living SF writer?
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 35


Greatest living SF writer?

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Ted Chiang (source: owner of Dreamhaven Books)
0 (0.0%)

Samuel R. Delany (source: me)
2 (5.9%)

Ursula K. LeGuin (source: me)
28 (82.4%)

Gene Wolfe (source: Neil Gaiman)
0 (0.0%)

someone else I will name below
4 (11.8%)

Write-in candidate?



I just can't believe someone would put Ted Chiang over the woman who coined the term 'ansible,' but maybe I shouldn't be all that surprised.

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Date: 2011-06-05 07:14 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] louderandlouder
Wolfe vs. Le Guin is a hell of a contest, but my heart is with her even though I appreciate Gaiman's answer. So many of the SF greats are still alive; it makes a poll like this very crowded, happily.

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Date: 2011-06-05 08:25 (UTC)
futuransky: sepia-toned pen and ink drawing of bookshelves with owls (owl bookshelf)
From: [personal profile] futuransky
It was a hard choice between Le Guin and Delany for me (and then I was sad for a while about Russ not being on the list), and I might answer it differently another day, because they do such different things with their work... But Le Guin has my heart and my soul in the end, though Delany has more of my intellect in many ways.

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Edited Date: 2011-06-05 08:26 (UTC)

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Date: 2011-06-05 08:37 (UTC)
sara: Once you visit...you won't want to leave the City of Books (books)
From: [personal profile] sara
...I am sad at the idea of having to rank them, really. Any contest in which I have to decide whether Delany or LeGuin is "better" does them both an injustice.

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Date: 2011-06-05 11:26 (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
LeGuin or Delany for me, but I've read more LeGuin. I think it's a bit unfair to start putting Ted Chiang (or any writer under 60!) up against that kind of competition or claim he's the best of anything yet.

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Date: 2011-06-05 13:38 (UTC)
melannen: Commander Valentine of Alpha Squad Seven, a red-haired female Nick Fury in space, smoking contemplatively (Default)
From: [personal profile] melannen
I'd be willing to entertain Delany as outranking Le Guin, except that I *still* haven't read any of his stuff. (Dhalgren is just so... intimidating.)

Wolfe... I've never read any Wolfe either, but I've also never seen his work talked about in any context other than "Best SF writer" - ie nobody talking about how he had an influence or did new and different things or stirred up everybody in the genre or brought them into reading SF, or any of the other things people say about Delany and Le Guin (and Zelazny and Heinlein and a bunch of other non-living ones...) In fact I have no idea what Wolfe wrote about, whereas I have a pretty good idea about Delany just from following fan discussions.

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Date: 2011-06-05 13:52 (UTC)
seekingferret: Two warning signs one above the other. 1) Falling Rocks. 2) Falling Rocs. (Default)
From: [personal profile] seekingferret
DHALGREN IS AMAZING. READ IT. YOU WON'T REGRET IT.


Also, his Neveryon fantasy stories are incredibly worth it and nowhere near as intimidating.

I'm a sort of admirer of Wolfe in an abstract way, though I've found in practice that actually sitting down and reading him is like taking a dose of your medicine. I will say that we couldn't have had the past thirty years' explosion in non-Tolkien fantasy without him.

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Date: 2011-06-05 15:04 (UTC)
seekingferret: Two warning signs one above the other. 1) Falling Rocks. 2) Falling Rocs. (Default)
From: [personal profile] seekingferret
Don't get me wrong, the Neveryon books are both incredibly brilliant and incredibly intellectually demanding. You're absolutely right that the way he plays with theory without diminishing character at all is stunning and powerful. I'm just saying that the stories aren't as intimidating- they don't have the unpredictable narrative jumps and complicated textual play that I think make Dhalgren an intimidating book to undertake for someone new to Delany.

I think I've read the first three parts of the Book of the New Sun, plus various short pieces of his SF. And I admired The Book of the New Sun greatly but never really enjoyed it, which is why I never finished. It never made me excited to keep reading.

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Date: 2011-06-06 04:36 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thistleingrey
If you bounce off Wolfe's New Sun books (as I did, several times), you might try The Fifth Head of Cerberus--that is, ideally the book-length work of that name, which consists of three novellas, the first of which is also titled "The Fifth Head of Cerberus." This thing. I find Wolfe much better at shorter lengths (the death/doctor/island stories are of interest as well), though I do appreciate Soldier of the Mist and the recentish Knight + Wizard duo.

And I am never gonna read any New Sun Long Sun Anyshaped Sun properly at this point, and I am okay with that. Life is not long enough.

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Date: 2011-06-06 22:24 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thistleingrey
:)) Agreed about Knight's misogyny. I appreciate its playing with Norse and farther-south Germanic bits, mostly; it reminds me of Þiðrekssaga.

It may be that the age when one meets Wolfe's work (as for some other writers I can think of) matters re: tolerance. I didn't try New Sun until my mid-twenties.

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Date: 2011-06-05 13:49 (UTC)
seekingferret: Two warning signs one above the other. 1) Falling Rocks. 2) Falling Rocs. (Default)
From: [personal profile] seekingferret
I went with Delany. LeGuin and I get along only about half the time. (By which I mostly mean I'll love anything Hainish and dislike anything not). The writer I think is closest to Delany in my rankings is Ray Bradbury.

I don't understand how Chiang is even in the conversation.

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Date: 2011-06-05 16:05 (UTC)
kindkit: A late-Victorian futuristic zeppelin. (Airship)
From: [personal profile] kindkit
I like Chiang's work enormously, and I do think he's an important and underread writer, but . . . no.

I wonder whether that claim may be coming from folks somehow interpreting "living SF writer" as "currently working SF writer." LeGuin's best work, in my opinion, was written in the sixties and seventies, while Delany doesn't write SF anymore. Gene Wolfe I don't know about. But if the question was understood as "who's the best SF writer right now?" naming Chiang is much less ridiculous. Especially if SF is being defined narrowly as pure science fiction.

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Date: 2011-06-05 17:37 (UTC)
troisroyaumes: Painting of a duck, with the hanzi for "summer" in the top left (Default)
From: [personal profile] troisroyaumes
How incredibly bizarre--I love Ted Chiang, but he hasn't written nearly enough to even be in the competition.

I didn't vote because I haven't read Delany so I don't know how I would vote if I were familiar with all the authors, but out of the rest, I would definitely say Le Guin.

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Date: 2011-06-06 03:22 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coriana
So, I have to confess I don't think I've read any of these people except Le Guin -- I don't actually read much "in the genre," I'm just an unabashed devotee of UKL. But I very much appreciate your posting this poll, because the struggle everyone's going through in the comments suggests I should go to the library tomorrow and check out some Delaney!

(Suggestions about where to start?)

~ c.

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Date: 2011-06-06 04:13 (UTC)
lnhammer: the Chinese character for poetry, red on white background (Default)
From: [personal profile] lnhammer
My suggestion is Nova -- it's the most coherent and accessible of his science fiction, without losing any of the intelligence. Linguistics geeks are also directed to Babel-17. If you've ever thought "Gosh, I wish Finnegan's Wake had been written in plain English with the psychosexual stuff as text instead of subtext," then Dhalgren's for you.

(Using "subtext" advisedly, as Joyce's tale is so weighted under the language that the basic plot is arguably a subtext.)

---L.

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Date: 2011-06-06 15:03 (UTC)
lnhammer: the Chinese character for poetry, red on white background (Default)
From: [personal profile] lnhammer
The FW connection is half a joke, but only half -- notice, for example, that the last sentence is incomplete and is finished by the fragmentary first sentence.

---L.

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Date: 2011-06-06 21:00 (UTC)
outou: (Words beginning with X are Grecian.)
From: [personal profile] outou
I know his most recent works are, uh, incomprehensible, but why hasn't anyone mentioned Ray Bradbury yet? Does everyone think he's dead? (Do I have terrible taste?)

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Date: 2011-06-06 21:00 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] outou
Also, a belated happy birthday! I'm sorry I missed it.

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