starlady: Queen Susan of Narnia, called the Gentle and the Queen of Spring (gentle queen how now)
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Lewis, C.S. The Horse and His Boy. New York: Harper Collins, 1994. [1954]

This book, by contrast, is the most well-thumbed of all my copies of the seven, and I remember quite clearly rereading it many times as a kid. I know why I liked it so much; it's the only book of the seven set entirely in the world of Narnia, and the only book in which we get to see (some of) the Pevensies as adults there, in the Golden Age.

As a kid I liked Aravis a lot too, because I was very Anti-'Girly Things' (I went a good five or six years, in this time frame, without willingly putting on a dress or a skirt), and Aravis is appropriately warlike and also anti-arranged marriage, both of which sentiments I admired and sympathized with. I liked all the characters in this book, in point of fact, and I still do.

What sticks out to me this time though is the very racefail-tastic portrayal of Calormen and the Calormenes. It's not anywhere near as blatant as it could have been, but all of Calormene society is portrayed as negative in every respect, from slave-holding to idol-worship to the position of women. Even Calormene poetry doesn't measure up to that of the North. What makes Aravis so awesome is what makes her not really Calormene at heart, unlike, say, Lasraleen. To be honest, I was reminded nothing so much of the Dominion and the Empire in Michelle West's books, with the Dominion and Calormen being more or less the same in many respects, though West, despite some faults, has way more respect for the non-Northern culture than Lewis does. Of course Tolkien does something similar, though even more blatantly racist, in The Lord of the Rings; the only epic fantasy I know of that subverts this biased trope entirely is Allison Croggon's Books of Pellinor sequence (which, incidentally, I heartily recommend).

This time around I am more annoyed than ever at the portrayal of Susan--I think the only way to make sense of her behaviour and still keep the portrayal of her as a queen who, even if she doesn't ride on campaigns, is perfectly capable of fighting and ruling and defending herself, is to think that Rabadash must have treated her very poorly indeed, up to and including assault. Which may be a bit more scaffolding than most readers want to indulge in; at any rate, I think there's a clear pattern in the books of Lewis quite liking girls, even teenage ones, but not really knowing what to do with adult women. It's not quite true that the only adult woman in the books (so far) is Jadis/the Witch, but it's close, particularly if we disregard Mrs. Kirke, Aunt Letty, and Mrs. Macready. Lucy by the time of HHB is 22 by the official chronology (which, FWIW, I personally take more as guidelines really), but she's notably, well, "girlish" in the way that "tomboyish" women were characterized at the time, and perhaps still are--as Corin says, Lucy is "as good as a man, or at any rate as good as a boy" (196). And it's not just that Susan isn't tomboyish, and that's okay; she isn't tomboyish, she's Queen Susan the Gentle, and Lewis still doesn't like her--so the only way to be a 'good' girl or woman is to be 'unfeminine.' Polly of course is 61 at the time of TLB (I really cannot deal with TLB as-is anymore), and still obviously quite awesome, but one feels that is because she's won through adulthood to a spirited old age, rather like Aunt Letty or Mrs. Macready, actually, and she uses her few scraps of screentime in TLB to criticize Susan's performance of gender. Like all good post-1960s academic critics I am loath to engage in biographical criticism, and in all honesty I don't really care what Lewis' particular issue with women was. But it leaves a marked impression on his books, and in light of various things I'm inclined to place the blame for that issue on the English school system.

In some ways, having talked with you good folks about the previous two books so much already, I wish all the more that I'd read the books in publication order this time around, because HHB is the one book that really cracks the series wide open. It's clear, considering the books in publication order, that for Lewis Narnia was like a dark cave (yeah, maybe even the Platonic cave), and he only ever shone his flashlight around as much as he needed to see to tell the story, if I may be forgiven a rather expansive metaphor--Narnia gets a little wider and broader each time Lewis returns to it, but not by much, and it's only, only in this book that we get a sense of the wider world and of things like, say, oh, an international economy there. Compared with Middle-earth, there's an astonishing lack of worldbuilding to Narnia, which in some ways is almost refreshing, but it's this book that destabilizes all the understandings built up in the first four, because in the first four there's really nothing that doesn't fundamentally contradict the idea of Narnia as an entirely dependent reality, but this book does, though at the same time the construction of Calormen here provides Lewis the tool he needs to set in motion the end of the world in TLB. So, yeah. Fascinating stuff. No matter which way you slice it, some bits of Narnia canon joss other bits of Narnia canon, and that's interesting to me. 

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Date: 2011-01-21 02:17 (UTC)
juniperphoenix: Fire in the shape of a bird (Default)
From: [personal profile] juniperphoenix
It sounds like you and I love the same things about this book. Even as a child I was hungry for more worldbuilding in Narnia. I always found the lack of detail frustrating; it's like a line drawing that hasn't been fully colored in. And I love seeing the Pevensies as adults. Sometimes I open this book just to reread their scenes.

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Date: 2011-01-21 02:44 (UTC)
epershand: A picture of a castle with an arrow next to it. (Castle)
From: [personal profile] epershand
Me too. Your list is exactly the set of things that made me love this book the best. I just *hungered* for more about the Golden age. And I clung to all the pieces I could get--Susan and Edmund in HHB and the stretch in Caspian set in the ruins of Cair Paravel are by far the parts of the series I've reread the most.

And I love the characters in this book and their journey *so much*. I love the way they collaborate, and I love the way they all start suspicious of each other and secretly have the same objective. It's also got some of my favorite landscapes in the series, although again, Caspian comes close on that front. It's been years since I've read HHB, and I've still got really clear visuals of almost all the scenery from the book.

Even as a kid, though, I was pretty dubious about the fact that someone raised entirely on Calormene food would spend so much time thinking that finally he was having a good proper wholesome meal when allowed to eat toast with butter instead of olive oil for the first time in his life.

I think I made an Oz comparison in a previous post, but I really do think they have a lot in common WRT the way the worldbuilding happens. Both Baum and Lewis seem to have written each book in their respective series on the assumption that it would be the last, and in both cases it's really easy to see the author's process in building out the world as a result. Tolkien designed a world and then set books in it, and it's always clear that there's more going on in the world than you've seen yet, but that Tolkien knows it all and has written its grammar. Both Lewis and Baum wrote books and came up with more parts of the world as the characters encountered them.

I like to think that HHB is the point when Lewis realized what the shape of the series would be and sat down and did some longer-term planning. It certainly FEELS like it is. I don't think Baum ever did that--he hated Oz but was pretty much resigned to the fact that they were the only books he wrote that sold well and whipped one out whenever he was low on funds.

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Date: 2011-01-21 11:52 (UTC)
dhobikikutti: earthen diya (Default)
From: [personal profile] dhobikikutti
Heh, reading your reread posts is so interesting for me, because all my old issues come raring to the fore. I think its because they were the first fantasy series I ever read, and so I imprinted on them, but even at the time I kept going WTF at various things in them. And then when I was a little older, I read Tolkien, and some biographical info about Lewis, and basically went "How the fuck could you screw up your own world so badly thanks to being a piss-poor worldbuilder and a fucking racist misogynist arse?" and somehow have never been able to divorce the books from the author ever since.

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Date: 2011-01-21 03:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] truepenny did several good posts on women and girls in the Narnia books; I think they're under a "narnia" tag there, if you want to find them. She doesn't get biographical as I recall, but she does say some trenchant things about Lewis' attitude toward adult femininity. (And the word "adult" does seem to be an important part of that equation, as attitudes toward age figure into it alongside gender.)

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Date: 2011-01-21 03:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
Oo, I'll have to read those. Thanks!

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Date: 2011-01-21 04:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
Also: where can I find the "official chronology" for Narnia? I've always been curious.

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Date: 2011-01-21 04:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
Um, I just google it; it's attached to one of the wikipedia articles about the books, here, actually (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narnian_timeline). It will break your heart due to the length (or properly, the shortness) of the Golden Age.

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Date: 2011-01-24 23:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
. . . now why didn't I turn that up when I looked before?

No idea what search terms I used, though, so who knows.

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Date: 2011-01-24 23:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
No idea. I'd never have known about it except for other people mentioning it to me.

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Date: 2011-01-30 22:19 (UTC)
cofax7: Susan Pevensie with a bow: Real enough for you (Narnia - Susan)
From: [personal profile] cofax7
Can you imagine having people 1300 years later still referring to your protracted adolescence as The Best Time Ever in the History of the World?

The Pevensies should be way more fucked up than Lewis acknowledges at any point.

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