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Intense day at work was intense. I do not know our products by their colors! I do not drink our products (or our competition's, for that matter)! Pretend I'm color-blind, sales reps, and tell me your order by product # or name!

Ahem. Still no color pages this week. Something's going down--who wants to speculate? A full color chapter? A 29th volume? Color spread at the end?

!!! page 01
Yuuko: There is no need for you to bear anything more.
You have already suffered enough.

And the others of you as well.

Chapitre 221: The Providence That Was Reserved
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!!! page 02
Yuuko: However,

Even if we match our price,
It is difficult to give people life.

It's not that you will be able simply to be reborn, living your life and forgetting everything.

Even if you are born anew,
Your memories will remain.

The happy memories and the harsh memories.
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!!! page 03
And you will meet "this time" once again.

Shaoran: This time?
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!!! page 04
Yuuko: ...Now,
It is not the case that time is simply flowing in only one way from the past to the future.

The past and the future are mixed,
Multiply twisted and entangled.

Sakura: Because that person broke the principle...

Yuuko: Yes.
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!!! page 05
Yuuko: But
There is also a providence that is not broken.

The past and the future--

What decides everything is only choices in the "present."
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!!! page 06-07
Yuuko: You will go through new lives.

But once again,
You will encounter the others of you.

What will decide what happens when you encounter them

Is you. [TN: All these "you"s are in the plural.]
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!!! page 08
Shaoran: ...I..

Hurt various people...

Even Sakura...

Yuuko: That was not your will.

You were merely made to move according to Fei Wong's expectation.
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!!! page 09
Shaoran: But

The one who did it
...was me.

FX: Clench

Sakura: Even
If that is true,

If what you have done is a sin,

I want to bear that sin as well.
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!!! page 10
Shaoran: ...Sakura...

Sakura: If I'm punished sometime because of that, that's fine.
I want to live with you.
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!!! page 11
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!!! page 12
Yuuko: The choice is made.
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!!! page 13
FX: Gentle movement

FX: Magic

Shaoran: After we're born, we...

Yuuko: You will come into the world in the same dimension, the same world, and the same time.
Without fail, you will be able to meet.
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!!! page 14-15
Sakura: I can finally say it.

I...

Love you.
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!!! page 16
Shaoran: Me too.


The world's tomorrow,
Their future,
Will certainly come...


Best chapter yet, I say. What are the odds that the clones are Shaoran Jr.'s parents? 

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Date: 2009-05-19 19:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com
I can agree with that. However, I think there is stronger evidence that its CCS!Saku and Syao who are R!Syao's parents more so than the clones. But hey, this is TRC, apparently anything can happen

When the two were putting the worlds back together, Sakura was using the star magic, while Syaoran was using the Li magic, just like his son. There were also various points made in the series that made it clear (at least, from what I could tell) that most of the evidence points to CCS!Saku and Syao being R!Syao's parents. Like I said before, R!Syao inherited his father's jian sword. He also uses the Shorai spells, just like his father. Another thing, when P!Saku and Syao were turning back their own time, they used the same magic (the star magic and the Li magic)

Also, so R!Syao could even go on his journey in the first place, P!Sakura gave up the star wand as a price. Yuuko said eariler in xxholic that CCS!Saku and Syao are LIVING in the Japan we know. R!Syao also comes from that Japan.

As for the dream P!Saku was referring to in Chap.217. We know that CCS!Sakura often saw dreams of the future. They were never of the present or of the past. So, I think that CCS!Sakura was giving her star wand to her future self, which would be P!Sakura.

C!Sakura never was able to use the star wand, let alone the star magic, so it wouldn't explain how she would be P!Saku. CCS!Sakura CREATED that magic herself. Same with C!Syao, and how he is unable to use the Li magic. Just because the two are reincarnated, doesn't mean that they obtain this instantly, just like cutesherry pointed out. The clones were made after R!Syao made his wish to turn back time. I don't get how they could be his parents, when before that distortion, they didn't even exist.

C!Syao and Saku being R!Syao's parents just doesn't make that much sense to me, nor do I see enough evidence supporting that. I think CLAMP made it clear that it wasn't the clones, but you can never really tell at this point. I really hope not though x_x;

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-19 19:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cutesherry.livejournal.com
I couldn't agree with you more ^^ Unfortunately, things are going so crazy in TRC lately that I don't even dare to believe in my own thoughts ^^;;
But as you said, Clamp pretty much spent their whole time, since the very first volumes of both TRC and Holic, throwing hints right and left about the *mysterious* and invisible parents to be CCS|SxS. And for the parents to use the exact same magic, specially the Star Magic in Sakura's case, Syaoran's chinese jiang, the fact they both are from CCS=Holic world, them being related to Clow Reed, even up to their chinese fashion should indeed be definite and absolute proofs of their identities.
That said, Clamp has been using a VERY convenient excuse: that the Logic of the World was overthrown and that everything was a mess, that even the Past and Future were mixed...from that point on, what seems so 'logic' might not be and Clamp might just as well use this *excuse* to make up some crazy out of the world scenario *unfortunately*

Finally, that aside, I really want to know where are Parents|SxS bodies? (we can see that they are somehow transparent in the fight)

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-19 20:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com
argh I know, curse that for being into play. But in all seriousness, if this is just a lousy excuse to make the claim that the clones are the parents, that would just be messed up...and I would be totally enraged because they are negating what already happened. (cause I like the idea that is already presented, CCS!Saku and Syao being the parents of R!Syao and Watanuki)

Good question on the bodies note...um...if it were CCS!Saku and Syao,I am sure they kept it somewhere safe. Touya and Yukito may be looking after them (with Kero and Tomoyo...or maybe them).

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-20 01:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
It seems to me, though, that the entire point of both manga is, on some level, "negating what already happened"--Yuuko's lines in this chapter about straightening time out certainly seem to imply that, when the action of TRC and Holic has finished, time will have been straightened out: I think that people in Watanuki's world are starting to forget Yuuko is a sign that the process is already happening. Which is why it's so important that Doumeki find the proper moment to use the egg, because when time straightens out, Watanuki's existence will be erased, since he came into being as a consequence of things being twisted.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-20 01:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outou.livejournal.com
And two more things, before I drop out of this discussion for good:

1) The strange clothes Junior's parents are wearing could be considered evidence against their being CCS|Xiaolang and Sakura. I say "strange," because his mother's dress bears only a superficial resemblance to real Chinese clothing. (Even if it was CLAMP's idea of hanfu, why would Sakura be wearing it? She never showed any inclination to adopt Chinese customs, while Xiaolang readily adapted to Japanese customs.)

2) The jian Xiaolang used is quite different from the one Junior's father used. Look at how much smaller it is. (http://i39.tinypic.com/t5lgrr.jpg) Also note the slight coloring differences.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-20 01:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
I definitely agree about the clothing; I've been suspecting something of the sort myself. I think their clothing is very appropriate to an alternate Hong Kong, but I can't quite see it in the world of CCS.

That said, though, I'm not sure how much stock to put in the differences between the CCS and TRC versions of Shaoran and Jr.'s swords, because the art styles are so vastly different. (Though you're right that the swords are actually not that similar...)