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Intense day at work was intense. I do not know our products by their colors! I do not drink our products (or our competition's, for that matter)! Pretend I'm color-blind, sales reps, and tell me your order by product # or name!

Ahem. Still no color pages this week. Something's going down--who wants to speculate? A full color chapter? A 29th volume? Color spread at the end?

!!! page 01
Yuuko: There is no need for you to bear anything more.
You have already suffered enough.

And the others of you as well.

Chapitre 221: The Providence That Was Reserved
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!!! page 02
Yuuko: However,

Even if we match our price,
It is difficult to give people life.

It's not that you will be able simply to be reborn, living your life and forgetting everything.

Even if you are born anew,
Your memories will remain.

The happy memories and the harsh memories.
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!!! page 03
And you will meet "this time" once again.

Shaoran: This time?
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!!! page 04
Yuuko: ...Now,
It is not the case that time is simply flowing in only one way from the past to the future.

The past and the future are mixed,
Multiply twisted and entangled.

Sakura: Because that person broke the principle...

Yuuko: Yes.
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!!! page 05
Yuuko: But
There is also a providence that is not broken.

The past and the future--

What decides everything is only choices in the "present."
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!!! page 06-07
Yuuko: You will go through new lives.

But once again,
You will encounter the others of you.

What will decide what happens when you encounter them

Is you. [TN: All these "you"s are in the plural.]
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!!! page 08
Shaoran: ...I..

Hurt various people...

Even Sakura...

Yuuko: That was not your will.

You were merely made to move according to Fei Wong's expectation.
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!!! page 09
Shaoran: But

The one who did it
...was me.

FX: Clench

Sakura: Even
If that is true,

If what you have done is a sin,

I want to bear that sin as well.
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!!! page 10
Shaoran: ...Sakura...

Sakura: If I'm punished sometime because of that, that's fine.
I want to live with you.
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!!! page 11
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!!! page 12
Yuuko: The choice is made.
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!!! page 13
FX: Gentle movement

FX: Magic

Shaoran: After we're born, we...

Yuuko: You will come into the world in the same dimension, the same world, and the same time.
Without fail, you will be able to meet.
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!!! page 14-15
Sakura: I can finally say it.

I...

Love you.
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!!! page 16
Shaoran: Me too.


The world's tomorrow,
Their future,
Will certainly come...


Best chapter yet, I say. What are the odds that the clones are Shaoran Jr.'s parents? 

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-20 01:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
I really am starting to suspect, personally, that FWR is Clow and Yuuko's son. It makes so much sense, at least to me.

I also like your point about the relevance of interrupting the final battle--if the clones become people who are completely unrelated, it's way more appropriate to have in an epilogue or other sort of atogaki. Particularly since Ohkawa is totally leading us on when Yuuko says that what happens when the reincarnated clones meet the originals will be up to them to decide.

I also agree that the thought of CCS!Shaoran and Sakura having to suffer so much pain is just too sad. ;_; Sad I tell you.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-20 20:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com
XD FWR trying to bring back his dead "Mom"? in a way, it makes sense. But saying that he is bringing back a loved one is the same thing R!Syao wanted to do (hense why he said their wishes are similar)

and yet, it can't help but to make me wonder...was FWR trying to bring Yuuko back just to prove that he was "successful" in doing something that Clow wasn't? or is it because she is "dear" to him?

the whole matter with R!Syao's parents is just mind boggling to everyone. For now, I am sticking to "its CCS!Saku and Syao" unless proven otherwise, however if it turns out its the clones, I won't be too happy. There just isn't enough evidence for me to take that into consideration just yet. I'm not saying this because I am a CCS!fan (which I am) but I am saying it because it just doesn't make any sense to me. I would be alot more happier if it were the CCS!Saku and Syao, only because what we have seen so far is more justified. Also, if it so happened to be that the clones are the parents, R!Syao would of said something...even Watanuki. Because, they both are "each other" and they can recognize their own parents. They only treat the clones as "another self" not really "parents".

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-20 23:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rave-chick.livejournal.com
But maybe R!Syao didn't know that the reincarnated clones are his parents and so by extension, neither did Watanuki. They only recognise the ones from the tube as their parents (Watanuki's body memories, as he gave up his actual memories). The tube Sakura and Syaoran are the ones who have (supposedly) been reincarnated - and they've shrunk to their soul-like selves and therefore, look exactly like the clones right now.

And the shrunk, soul-like ones would have to be careful not to give too much away, or they'd further break the boundaries of space and time that they are trying to fix!

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-20 23:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com
however, in order for the ones in the tube to look like that, they turned back their own time using the Star magic, and the Li magic. That is something only CCS!Sakura and Syaoran can use (and R!Syao can use the Li magic)

still, R!Syao and Watanuki both knew it was their parents, probably because of the magic aura. While Wata doesn't know it himself consciously, he can tell this, apart from the clone, whom he thought was just another Syaoran.

Another thing, the ones in the tube only remember what happened in the past, before the dimensional rip occurred. They do not recall of the journey that their son's clone went on (nor of their son really, only the pre-story stuff that took place from 189 to 203).

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-21 00:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rave-chick.livejournal.com
however, in order for the ones in the tube to look like that, they turned back their own time using the Star magic, and the Li magic. That is something only CCS!Sakura and Syaoran can use (and R!Syao can use the Li magic)

No, no, the ones in the tube didn't turn back their time, they have just taken their soul forms (when they left the tubes, there is definately some growing backwards involved).^^

still, R!Syao and Watanuki both knew it was their parents, probably because of the magic aura. While Wata doesn't know it himself consciously, he can tell this, apart from the clone, whom he thought was just another Syaoran.

They don't recognise the clones as their parents, because they are not - only the reincarnated ones are - and they don't appear until this final battle, which is where they are recognised.

Another thing, the ones in the tube only remember what happened in the past, before the dimensional rip occurred. They do not recall of the journey that their son's clone went on (nor of their son really, only the pre-story stuff that took place from 189 to 203).

You have to remember they are the reincarnations of the CLONES. So, if we go through it step-by-step, it's like this:

-Sakura remembers her life before the wings with Clow as her father, meeting Clone!Syaoran and then the whole journey until she is killed by the clone. This includes the fact that she is a clone.

Syoaran remembers his father as Fujitaka, meeting Sakura, taking her to Yuuko, and the whole journey until he sacrifices himself. This includes the fact that he is a clone.

So they do actually have memories of the whole thing, nearly.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-21 00:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
Yes, exactly. There's no way we're not going to see the moment the reincarnated clones meet the originals--and I very much think it's going to come in the next chapter or two.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-21 20:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com
First off, we don't know what the clones are going to be, so you can't really say that its definitely the clones reincarnations.

Second, the ones in the tube did turn back their time so they could pay the price to keep the worlds in balance and left Watanuki and R!Syao behind (see chap 216) Yuuko even stated it herself. To do that though, they used the star magic (that only Sakura K. can use) and the Li magic (that only Syaoran li and R!Syao can use)

One other thing I forgot to mention, Yuuko said she never met Sakura Kinomoto or Syaoran Li (this was stated several times), because they were already in the separate world that they sent themselves to. This world was given to Yuuko by Touya Kinomoto and Yukito. She already met the clones.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-05-22 01:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com
You raise a very good point about Touya and Yukito showing up in 216. While I can't disagree with you on that point per se, while Jr.'s mother did use the power of the star staff (which is Kinomoto Sakura's power), in 217 Jr.'s mother explicitly says that she was leant the star staff by Kinomoto Sakura, who came from another world in a dream.

Jr. definitely has his father's power, which is definitely the power of Li Shaoran, but we've never been told (afaik) in any Clamp manga that the Li family is unique to the CCS!world (and TRC, imo, seems to argue against that being the case).